Re: [nbos] FM and large file sizes/prints
"Mike Oliver"
Fri Oct 9th, 2009
I have used FM8 successfully under Wine running on Ubuntu Linux (see my
earlier postings). It is necessary to place some .dll files in the main
directory folder to handle the picture files used in bitmap fills and
the like.

Cheers,

Mike
www.warmodelling.co.uk
www.cartography-services.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: nbossoftware-bounces-at-nbos.com
[mailto:nbossoftware-bounces-at-nbos.com] On Behalf Of David Loman
Sent: 08 October 2009 19:50
To: mark.oliva-at-steigerwaldedv.de; nbossoftware-at-nbos.com
Subject: Re: [nbos] FM and large file sizes/prints

Hey gents. I am jumping in this convo halfway through, so I apologize
in advance if I say something that has already been said.

It is true that XP can only address about 3.25-3.5 Gigs of Ram max.
There is no getting around that. However, by default, WinXP only allows
2GB of ram max per application instance. So, if you are hitting a
memory limit with FM8, its more than likely the 2GB limit.

It is possible to push this 'per application limit' out to 3GB per app
by use of the 3GB switch:

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEmem.mspx

Dunno if that will help, but is has helped me avoid Vista for some of my
more memory intesive stuff. Another 'solution' that might work is to
switch to Ubuntu, although I do not know if anyone has gotten FM8 to run
under Wine.

-Dave L



On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Mark Oliva
<mark.oliva-at-steigerwaldedv.de> wrote:
> From: bedlamandmayhem-at-gmail.com

<<
The main reason you'd need a 64 bit after XP version of windows is if
you
have more than 3 gig of ram. XP cannot use more than that, even in 64
bit.
It came out before the current huge RAM sizes were really feasible. If
you
hav 8 gig like I do on my desk top, and want to use it all under
windows,
you have to have either vista or 7 at 64 bit.
>>

Exactly. I'm by no means a Vista lover, but I have to have it available
for
software testing. Most of the time I use Windows XP Pro and in the
coming
year I'll be slowly phasing into LINUX with a full conversion goal of
October 2011.

The point is that some "big things" in FM8 won't work with Windows XP,
because of its limited memory addressing, as explained by
bedlamandmayhem.
The operation ends with an insufficient memory resources message. I've
seen
it many times. My machines have 8 GB RAM. Windows XP can use only
about
3.7 GB of the 8 GB total. When FM8 gives me an insufficient memory
message,
I (very reluctantly) reboot into 64-bit Vista, where I have all 8 GB
memory
availble and the operation that XP couldn't run performs like a snap.

It wasn't my intention to promote Vista (which I consider to be a
godwaful
OS) but rather to warn Rob Graham that he might need a 64-Bit Vista or
Windows 7 OS and 8 GB RAM to do what he wants to do.

Mark Oliva
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