Re: [nbos] FM and large file sizes/prints
"T'Star"
Thu Oct 8th, 2009
It should handle it. I'm not sure there is a 64 bit version of FM?
(Someone correct me if I'm wrong.) I know I run into memory errors on my
laptop (XP) but not my desktop (Win 7 RC, 8Gig) so it seems to be a SYSTEM
limitation not a limitation with FM8. That is also the impression I'm
getting from the others in this thread. It should be able to handle it if
your system can handle the memory drain.
I ditched Vista... too many things I couldn't get to run on it.

~Wolf

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Robert Graham
<robert.graham18-at-bigpond.com>wrote:

> No no I am asking if FM8 can handle it
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> I actually am a MSDN user so i have access beyond vista and CC3 is dumping
> out and iím looking for new software that doesnít have itís issues.
>
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>
> Mark got what i meant from memory Mark has had the same issues with CC3.
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> Basically CC3 is causing me nothing but problems and despite spending a lot
> of money on it and itís expansions the responces i get from profantasy are
> considerably hostile both on itís issues with anything to do with
> Vista/Windows 7 and or Large scale printing down to them actually trying to
> ask what machine iím able to produce 5mx5m raster output images on even in
> photoshop etc which well i can do on a 32 bit machine let alone the 64 bit
> machine i am on.
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>
>
> What I want to know from ed is if FM8 will enable extremely large exports
> to file, or if itís going to hit the same limits iím experiencing with CC3
> because well I definantly no longer have the Ďbetaí copy to go test it
> myself given iím on a new machine and I definantly am not going to fork out
> more and more cash only to keep running into the same limits as I have with
> software I already own.
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> That and honestly I am ĖNOT- downgrading to XP windows 7 and vista have
> worked fine for me and i shouldnít have to run xp with software that is
> meant to be current.
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>
> -Rob.
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>
> *From:* nbossoftware-bounces-at-nbos.com [mailto:
> nbossoftware-bounces-at-nbos.com] *On Behalf Of *David Loman
> *Sent:* Friday, 9 October 2009 5:50 AM
> *To:* mark.oliva-at-steigerwaldedv.de; nbossoftware-at-nbos.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [nbos] FM and large file sizes/prints
>
>
>
> Hey gents. I am jumping in this convo halfway through, so I apologize in
> advance if I say something that has already been said.
>
>
> It is true that XP can only address about 3.25-3.5 Gigs of Ram max. There
> is no getting around that. However, by default, WinXP only allows 2GB of
> ram max per application instance. So, if you are hitting a memory limit
> with FM8, its more than likely the 2GB limit.
>
> It is possible to push this 'per application limit' out to 3GB per app by
> use of the 3GB switch:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEmem.mspx
>
> Dunno if that will help, but is has helped me avoid Vista for some of my
> more memory intesive stuff. Another 'solution' that might work is to switch
> to Ubuntu, although I do not know if anyone has gotten FM8 to run under
> Wine.
>
> -Dave L
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Mark Oliva <mark.oliva-at-steigerwaldedv.de>
> wrote:
>
> > From: bedlamandmayhem-at-gmail.com
>
> <<
> The main reason you'd need a 64 bit after XP version of windows is if you
> have more than 3 gig of ram. XP cannot use more than that, even in 64 bit.
> It came out before the current huge RAM sizes were really feasible. If you
> hav 8 gig like I do on my desk top, and want to use it all under windows,
> you have to have either vista or 7 at 64 bit.
> >>
>
> Exactly. I'm by no means a Vista lover, but I have to have it available
> for
> software testing. Most of the time I use Windows XP Pro and in the coming
> year I'll be slowly phasing into LINUX with a full conversion goal of
> October 2011.
>
> The point is that some "big things" in FM8 won't work with Windows XP,
> because of its limited memory addressing, as explained by bedlamandmayhem.
> The operation ends with an insufficient memory resources message. I've
> seen
> it many times. My machines have 8 GB RAM. Windows XP can use only about
> 3.7 GB of the 8 GB total. When FM8 gives me an insufficient memory
> message,
> I (very reluctantly) reboot into 64-bit Vista, where I have all 8 GB memory
> availble and the operation that XP couldn't run performs like a snap.
>
> It wasn't my intention to promote Vista (which I consider to be a godwaful
> OS) but rather to warn Rob Graham that he might need a 64-Bit Vista or
> Windows 7 OS and 8 GB RAM to do what he wants to do.
>
> Mark Oliva
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