Re: [nbos] FM and large file sizes/prints
David Loman
Thu Oct 8th, 2009
Hey gents. I am jumping in this convo halfway through, so I apologize in
advance if I say something that has already been said.

It is true that XP can only address about 3.25-3.5 Gigs of Ram max. There
is no getting around that. However, by default, WinXP only allows 2GB of
ram max per application instance. So, if you are hitting a memory limit
with FM8, its more than likely the 2GB limit.

It is possible to push this 'per application limit' out to 3GB per app by
use of the 3GB switch:

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEmem.mspx

Dunno if that will help, but is has helped me avoid Vista for some of my
more memory intesive stuff. Another 'solution' that might work is to switch
to Ubuntu, although I do not know if anyone has gotten FM8 to run under
Wine.

-Dave L



On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Mark Oliva <mark.oliva-at-steigerwaldedv.de>wrote:

> > From: bedlamandmayhem-at-gmail.com
>
> <<
> The main reason you'd need a 64 bit after XP version of windows is if you
> have more than 3 gig of ram. XP cannot use more than that, even in 64 bit.
> It came out before the current huge RAM sizes were really feasible. If you
> hav 8 gig like I do on my desk top, and want to use it all under windows,
> you have to have either vista or 7 at 64 bit.
> >>
>
> Exactly. I'm by no means a Vista lover, but I have to have it available
> for
> software testing. Most of the time I use Windows XP Pro and in the coming
> year I'll be slowly phasing into LINUX with a full conversion goal of
> October 2011.
>
> The point is that some "big things" in FM8 won't work with Windows XP,
> because of its limited memory addressing, as explained by bedlamandmayhem.
> The operation ends with an insufficient memory resources message. I've
> seen
> it many times. My machines have 8 GB RAM. Windows XP can use only about
> 3.7 GB of the 8 GB total. When FM8 gives me an insufficient memory
> message,
> I (very reluctantly) reboot into 64-bit Vista, where I have all 8 GB memory
> availble and the operation that XP couldn't run performs like a snap.
>
> It wasn't my intention to promote Vista (which I consider to be a godwaful
> OS) but rather to warn Rob Graham that he might need a 64-Bit Vista or
> Windows 7 OS and 8 GB RAM to do what he wants to do.
>
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