Re: [nbos] [FM] FM8 Techniques Sharing
"Christopher Rodrigues Macias"
Mon Jul 30th, 2007
Hi Doug,

> I probably would have thought a wiki better suited to this, but that is
just my idea.

No, it isn't just you. As I mentioned in the email I considered setting-up a
wiki. I agree it is better suited 'in principle,' but as a practical matter
I've found wikis to be... problematic.

The primary problem is usability. My experience is that people with some
background in programming (which includes me) love the idea of wikis because
of their flexibility. However, a substantial proportion of non-programmers
don't 'get' them, and aren't interested in learning to use them. They find
the special syntax off-putting.

>From discussions on the list I get the sense that a large part-maybe a
majority-of the FM user base are non-geeks. Some of those may be lured into
fighting with GoblinScript, but only because they love drawing maps and that
can help them do it.

Web site experts will tell you that, if you are trying to create a
community-driven site, you have to go with technologies that appeal to the
widest user base. My guess (and I may be wrong) is that there would be a
higher proportion of FM users who would be willing to learn the ins-and-outs
of the user-friendly Blogger UI than would be willing to learn the basics of
your average wiki. I didn't want to exclude a large part of the community
from contributing because they found the site to difficult to deal with.

Now, some wikis *do* have very good WYSIWIG interfaces and are easier to
use. However, the one's I've seen that fell into this category were
commercial. I don't have the time to manage hosting a web site, much less
pay for a commercial wiki product, so I was limiting things to free hosting
sites. If you can point me to a free wiki hosting service that has a good
Web 2.0-ish WYSIWYG editor, then I think that could be a better alternative.
I just didn't know of one.

Fortunately, Ed says he's considering a wiki for NOX, so maybe we can turn
our focus to that. I don't know if he has a particular product in mind. If
not, maybe he's interested in suggestions. Ed?



From: []
On Behalf Of Doug Jessee
Sent: Monday, 30 July 2007 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nbos] [FM] FM8 Techniques Sharing


I probably would have thought a wiki better suited to this, but that is just
my idea.

Unfortunately, between work, kids, home/yard maintenance and classes, I seem
never to have enough time.


On 7/29/07, Christopher Rodrigues Macias <> wrote:

Hi All,

Joe Frazier has been reminding us of the value of community support in
learning how to use FM8. The mail list meets this need to some extent, as
people can post questions and get answers, and even search the archives.
However, the list has its limitations. I've been mulling over what else we
might use.

There was an attempt last year to set-up a 'portal' dedicated to all NBOS
products, but after some initial enthusiasm usage rapidly fell off. I think
the portal concept was perhaps too ambitious, and in part was competing for
people's attention with the mailing list. Perhaps a different, more tightly
focused effort would work.

I've been playing with using a popular blogging site as a way of posting FM8
techniques. You can see what I've done so far here:

Blogger allows group blogging now, so *if* others wanted to go down this
path, it would be easy to add any/all who were interested as co-authors to
this blog.

Thoughts? Other options? In theory a wiki might be more appropriate, but my
impression is that free blogging tools have more advanced features and
better usability than the free wikis I've been able to locate. Do any of you
want me to add you as an author on this blog so you can play with it?



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