Re: [nbos] [AS2] [OT] 3D starfield viewer

Tue Jan 30th, 2007
>If that is the case, I might be able to scan the list, put it into a
.csv
>format and create an AstroSynthesis version of it.

I've got a 2300AD Star List all set to import (bad news below though).

It's even got the multiple systems setup in the list with a Multiple
Line, followed by the Star A, B, etc with names, XYZ and spectral types
and I have changed the game names of stars back to the real ones.

It is missing the luminosity, mass and radius data (something on my "to
do" list).

Here is what the data look like (though email may mess up the layout,
you should be able to see what is up):

Type,sys,id,name,X,Y,Z,mass,radius,lum,spectral,Color,gleise
Multiple,626,Alpha Centauri,-1.7,-1.4,-3.9,0,0,0,G2 V,ffffff,Gliese 3060
Star,626,Alpha Centauri A,-1.7,-1.4,-3.9,0,0,0,G2 V,ffffff,Gliese 3060
Star,626,Alpha Centauri B,-1.7,-1.4,-3.9,0,0,0,K0 V,ffffff,Gliese 7040
Multiple,627,Mu Herculis,-1.6,-23.3,12.2,0,0,0,G5 IV,cc0000,Gliese
5890.1
Star,627,Mu Herculis A,-1.6,-23.3,12.2,0,0,0,G5 IV,cc0000,Gliese 5890.1
Star,627,Mu Herculis B, -1.6, -23.3,12.2,0,0,0,M4 V,cc0000,Gliese 1180
Star,627,Mu Herculis C,-1.6,-23.3,12.2,0,0,0,M4 V,cc0000,Gliese 1432.1
Star,628,DM -46 11540,-1.6,-10.3,-11.1,0,0,0,M4 VI,cc0000,Gliese 8290
Star,629,Proxima Centauri,-1.6,-1.2,-3.8, 0,0,0,M5 V,cc0000,Gliese
4561.1
Multiple,630,Sirius,-1.6,8.1,-2.5,0,0,0,A1 V,cc0000,Gliese 851
Star,630,Sirius A,-1.6,8.1,-2.5,0,0,0,A1 V,cc0000,Gliese 851
White Dwarf,630,Sirius B,-1.6,8.1,-2.5,0,0,0,A0 VII,cc0000,Gliese 7920

It works out that there are 1923 stars entered as 1304 different
systems.

The data I got from this site, using the NSL3Varient:

http://www.foxx-industries.com/2300ad/maps.htm#mapnsl

This guy that did this (Terry A. Kuchta) has taken out the fake stars
from the Kafer Sourcebook and added in stars from 50 LY to 60LY (looking
for additional expansions to the Arms). His very good explanation of
his data is here:

http://www.foxx-industries.com/2300ad/circular.htm#ns-3

Since I used his data and haven't asked for permission to republish it
(he's got a note on the bottom of the front page about not doing that)
I'm not putting the file I made for importing to AS2 up anyplace to DL
yet.

I'd intended to ask him once I'd gotten the rest of the data filled out
(mass, rad, lum) as well as point out the existence of AS2 to him, but
haven't done so yet.

Laurence



-----Original Message-----
From: nbossoftware-bounces-at-nbos.com
[mailto:nbossoftware-bounces-at-nbos.com] On Behalf Of Mike Oliver
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:15 PM
To: nbossoftware-at-nbos.com
Subject: Re: [nbos] [AS2] [OT] 3D starfield viewer

I'm sorry, I thought it was a .csv file that could be imported into AS2.
However, the .csv file itself might hold information that is proving
difficult to find. Do the X, Y, Z coordinates in the T2300 near star map
all fit the AS2 coordinate system (i.e. would Sol be at 0, 0, 0 on the
T2300 list)?

If that is the case, I might be able to scan the list, put it into a
.csv format and create an AstroSynthesis version of it.

The link you provided looks an interesting site. Unfortunately, I'm
expecting visitors at any moment and can't give it proper attention.
Hopefully I can do that tomorrow.

Yes I'd be happy to get involved with the T2300 team, cooperating with
you.

Cheers,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: nbossoftware-bounces-at-nbos.com
[mailto:nbossoftware-bounces-at-nbos.com] On Behalf Of Exile In Paradise
Sent: 30 January 2007 19:01
To: nbossoftware-at-nbos.com
Subject: [nbos] [AS2] [OT] 3D starfield viewer

On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 18:24 +0000, Mike Oliver wrote:
> Robert:
> I am engaged, when I can find the time, in
> exactly the same exercise and have several other
> AS users waiting for me to finish so they can
> have a copy.
>
> Would you be willing to release yours to us?

I am not sure what you would make of it...
Currently, it reads a CSV "spreadsheet" called
hygfull.csv that I downloaded from David Nash's
Astronomy Nexus http://www.astronexus.com/node/34

The app then creates a window, and spins a
starfield in 3D, with stars colored by spectra.

There's no interface or controls, other than
hacking the Java itself... it's just an app/applet
that can run from a box or in a webpage and gives
you a 3D rotating starfield. Currently, the
star system Zeta II Reticuli is highlighted.

If that sounds useful to people, then I would be
happy to get it into some sort of shareable shape
and post it for download, probably in the same
place as the BigBang scripts.

While we're at it, we might want to get involved
with the Traveller 2320A.D. team to see how the
new starmap is going?
http://rpgrealms.com/cgi-bin/catalog/pview.pl?action=view&stocknum=atu00
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Robert "Exile In Paradise" Murphey
Your education begins where what is called your education is over.


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