Re: [nbos] [AS] Web Integration?
"Rob Graham"
Thu Jun 18th, 2009
actually I'm thinking he means something more akin to groove's syncing.. which i forgot to mention to him if he has office 2007 full.. *is half alseep* so yeah..

The wiki stuff.. you do have something intresting there.. a full mass importer would be really nice.. might have to look into it, technically it has to be doable.. each page is only created using the [page] tag... -Rob

----- Original Message -----
From: Shade Tree
To: nbossoftware-at-nbos.com
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nbos] [AS] Web Integration?


The biggest problem is there is no mass import option for any of the free Wiki's (That I could find) So you are still stuck manually copying and pasting the information to each separate page. All these scripts do is cut down on the amount of formatting you'd have to do post-paste. It's not the best way to collaborate on a huge sector/system. But it's better than what we have right now.

In any event a new page added to that wiki showing progress on the System Script.

I'm actually fiddling with using the XML export in a client\server 3d graphical app using XNA. That would allow you to edit the information on the fly. The XML gives you everthing you need to simulate a system and XNA's content pipeline handles them nicely.


What exactly would be beneficial for You and Rob Graham to be able to do? If it's basically both be able to simultaneously look at the exact same screen in AS then you might look into

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_sharing

It looks like mikogo http://www.mikogo.com/Welcome.aspx might have all the features you need while being free. Never used it myself.
Basically you would start AS and Mikogo, invite Rob to join the session remotely and then get frustrated at each other over controlling the mouse pointer :)






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From: mike-oliver-at-supanet.com
To: nbossoftware-at-nbos.com
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:48:45 +0100
Subject: Re: [nbos] [AS] Web Integration?


It might not answer the specific wish I was writing about but it looks a highly useful project. I donít know much about Wikiís but thatís no reason not to start showing an interest.



Cheers,



Mike

www.warmodelling.co.uk

www.cartography-services.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: nbossoftware-bounces-at-nbos.com [mailto:nbossoftware-bounces-at-nbos.com] On Behalf Of Shade Tree
Sent: 17 June 2009 05:03
To: nbossoftware-at-nbos.com
Subject: Re: [nbos] [AS] Web Integration?



Probably not what you are looking for but I'm currently in the process of writing a suite of scripts to export sector information with Wikia formating in my spare time. Not much done just yet but you can see the first script output and grab a copy of it

http://astrocollab.wikia.com/wiki/Astrosynthesis_Collaboration_Project_Wiki

Right now all it does is export the system names wiki links to a text file. You copy and paste that into the Wikia editor and it sets up blank pages for the next script I'm writing.

The script should work with any mediawiki.


> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:01:22 +0100
> From: lazarou.monkey.terror-at-gmail.com
> To: nbossoftware-at-nbos.com
> Subject: Re: [nbos] [AS] Web Integration?
>
> I'd be very interested to hear how this all pans out, I have a massive
> universe bubbling away on AS and it needs to be shared with the geek
> world (plus it would be nice to have somewhere safe to store a copy!)
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Mike Oliver<mike-oliver-at-supanet.com> wrote:
> > The light shines in! That version was clear as crystal. AS2 as an
> > interactive web facility would, indeed, open up a whole new raft of
> > possibilities to on-line gamers and even to those of us who just want to
> > develop backgrounds and share ideas.
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you saying you have a way of making this possible? Iím currently linking
> > up with Rob Graham developing a SciFi environment. Itís in the very early
> > stages but, if we could both work within the same AS2 sector(s) and
> > experience more or less simultaneously what the other was doing, it would be
> > a real help.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > www.warmodelling.co.uk
> >
> > www.cartography-services.co.uk
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nbossoftware-bounces-at-nbos.com [mailto:nbossoftware-bounces-at-nbos.com]
> > On Behalf Of David Loman
> > Sent: 15 June 2009 22:12
> > To:
> > nbossoftware-at-nbos.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: [nbos] [AS] Web Integration?
> >
> >
> >
> > No offense taken! Sorry if I came across gruff. Anyways, Let me work on
> > that translation :)
> >
> >
> > All I was saying is the AS2.0 is a single user application. Its designed
> > for Windows and Windows only. Its not a multi-user application, nor does it
> > have any web functionality built in to it. Its a very well done data
> > generation, management, and visualization application.
> >
> > The only way I have figured out how to have a multi-user AS2.0 accessable
> > via a web browser is to code one yourself using Java, Java's Webstart
> > technology, and one of the many Java based 3D engines. Java Monkey Engine
> > (jME) is my personal favorite Java 3D engine.
> >
> > In order to make AS2.0 useful in the game creation process is to use the
> > data that it generates. Now, someone could easily use the XML export
> > function and make a way to import the XML data into what ever game they are
> > making. I chose to use the .sector file directly, which involved reverse
> > engineering the file format.
> >
> > I think thats closer to plain english. If not, do ask questions :)
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Mike Oliver <mike-oliver-at-supanet.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > No, Dave Ė I meant to put a smiley after the query marks but clicked the
> > SEND button too quickly. It was just an indication that, as a non-tecchie,
> > what you were saying was in a foreign language as far as Iím concerned Ė it
> > would be nice if you were able to translate into plain English because I
> > might just learn something useful but I do understand that some technical
> > stuff canít be put in plain terms. No offence intended.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > www.warmodelling.co.uk
> >
> > www.cartography-services.co.uk
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: nbossoftware-bounces-at-nbos.com [mailto:nbossoftware-bounces-at-nbos.com]
> > On Behalf Of David Loman
> >
> > Sent: 15 June 2009 14:42
> > To:
> >
> > nbossoftware-at-nbos.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: [nbos] [AS] Web Integration?
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike,
> > Pardon what? MMO development is one of my hobbies, part of my career, and
> > a favorite subject. If that 'Pardon?" of your pertains to any specific
> > thing, I would love to discuss it! Although, off topic should be labeled as
> > such or moved to personal emails. dloman77-at-gmail.com.
> >
> > BTW, love your sites. Good stuff.
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Mike Oliver <mike-oliver-at-supanet.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Pardon?????
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > www.warmodelling.co.uk
> >
> > www.cartography-services.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
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