Re: [nbos] Stellar Radius - Mass - Luminosity Parameters.
"Dalton Calford"
Sat Feb 23rd, 2008
Hi Dan,

I guess I also am not being too clear, isn't email a wonderful tool to
communicate.......

:)


Anyways, what I was saying is that I do have alot of stars calculated
already, (although I need to check on the values).

The 2000+ stars in the list that don't match up with what I have are due
to either typos (a trailing space or hidden character makes a mess of
lookup values) or due to exactly what you where saying - such as two
values for the same star - A01a-A01b. Most of these need human
intervention just to figure out what is going on, but, there are stars
that are listed that don't match up with the table I have.

So, that is what I am working on.

Here is the lookup data I have so far - please forgive the formating as
email does not keep things nice and tidy.


Spectrum LUMINOSITY RADII MASS
A0D 0.01 0.02 0.36
A0Ia 107000 135 18
A0Ib 15000 50 16
A0II 2200 18 14
A0III 280 6.2 12
A0IV 156 4.5 6
A0V 90 3.2 3.2
A1D 0.01 0.02 0.36
A1Ia 102000 138 17
A1Ib 14300 51 15
A1II 1930 17 13.4
A1III 240 5.9 11.4
A1IV 132.2 4.1 5.6
A1V 75.2 2.92 2.98
A2D 0.01 0.02 0.36
A2Ia 97000 141 17
A2Ib 13700 52 15
A2II 1660 16 12.8
A2III 200 5.6 10.8
A2IV 108.4 3.8 5.2
A2V 60 2.64 2.76
A3D 0.01 0.02 0.36
A3Ia 91000 143 16
A3Ib 13000 53 14
A3II 1390 16 12.2
A3III 170 5.2 10.2
A3IV 84.6 3.4 4.8
A3V 45.6 2.36 2.54
A4D 0.01 0.02 0.36
A4Ia 86000 146 16
A4Ib 12400 54 14
A4II 1120 15 11.6
A4III 130 4.9 9.6
A4IV 60.8 3.1 4.4
A4V 30.8 2.08 2.32
A5D 0.01 0.02 0.36
A5Ia 81000 149 15
A5Ib 11700 55 13
A5II 850 14 11
A5III 90 4.6 9
A5IV 37 2.7 4
A5V 16 1.8 2.1
A6D 0.01 0.02 0.36
A6Ia 77000 154 15
A6Ib 10800 56 13
A6II 800 14 10.8
A6III 80 4.6 8.8
A6IV 33.4 2.7 3.7
A6V 14.42 1.78 2.02
A7D 0.01 0.02 0.36
A7Ia 73000 159 14
A7Ib 10000 57 13
A7II 750 15 10.6
A7III 80 4.6 8.6
A7IV 29.8 2.7 3.4
A7V 12.84 1.76 1.94
A8D 0.01 0.02 0.36
A8Ia 69000 164 14
A8Ib 9100 57 12
A8II 700 15 10.4
A8III 70 4.7 8.4
A8IV 26.2 2.7 3.1
A8V 11.26 1.74 1.86
A9D 0.01 0.02 0.36
A9Ia 65000 169 13
A9Ib 8300 58 12
A9II 650 16 10.2
A9III 60 4.7 8.2
A9IV 22.6 2.7 2.8
A9V 9.68 1.72 1.78
B0D 0.05 0.02 0.26
B0Ia 560000 52 60
B0Ib 270000 30 50
B0II 170000 22 30
B0III 107000 16 25
B0IV 81000 13 20
B0V 56000 10 18
B1D 0.05 0.02 0.26
B1Ia 489000 57 54
B1Ib 225300 31 45
B1II 139720 22 28
B1III 86940 14.8 23
B1IV 65200 11.5 18
B1V 45080 8.88 15.7
B2D 0.05 0.02 0.26
B2Ia 418000 61 48
B2Ib 180700 32 40
B2II 109440 21 26
B2III 66880 13.6 21
B2IV 49400 9.9 16
B2V 34160 7.76 13.4
B3D 0.05 0.02 0.26
B3Ia 346000 66 42
B3Ib 136000 33 35
B3II 79160 21 24
B3III 46820 12.4 19
B3IV 33600 8.4 14
B3V 23240 6.64 11.1
B4D 0.05 0.02 0.26
B4Ia 275000 70 36
B4Ib 91400 34 30
B4II 48880 20 22
B4III 26760 11.2 17
B4IV 17800 6.8 12
B4V 12320 5.52 8.8
B5D 0.05 0.02 0.26
B5Ia 204000 75 30
B5Ib 46700 35 25
B5II 18600 20 20
B5III 6700 10 15
B5IV 2000 5.3 10
B5V 1400 4.4 6.5
B6D 0.05 0.02 0.26
B6Ia 185000 87 28
B6Ib 40400 38 23
B6II 15320 20 18.8
B6III 5420 9.2 14.4
B6IV 1631.2 5.1 9.2
B6V 1138 4.16 5.84
B7D 0.05 0.02 0.26
B7Ia 165000 99 25
B7Ib 34000 41 21
B7II 12040 19 17.6
B7III 4130 8.5 13.8
B7IV 1262.4 5 8.4
B7V 876 3.92 5.18
B8D 0.05 0.02 0.26
B8Ia 146000 111 23
B8Ib 27700 44 20
B8II 8760 19 16.4
B8III 2850 7.7 13.2
B8IV 893.6 4.8 7.6
B8V 614 3.68 4.52
B9D 0.05 0.02 0.26
B9Ia 126000 123 20
B9Ib 21300 47 18
B9II 5480 18 15.2
B9III 1560 7 12.6
B9IV 524.8 4.7 6.8
B9V 352 3.44 3.86
F0D 0 0.01 0.42
F0Ia 61000 174 13
F0Ib 7400 59 12
F0II 600 16 10
F0III 53 4.7 8
F0IV 19 2.7 2.5
F0V 8.1 1.7 1.7
F1D 0 0.01 0.42
F1Ia 59000 180 13
F1Ib 6900 59 12
F1II 580 16 9.6
F1III 50 4.8 7.4
F1IV 17.6 2.7 2.4
F1V 7.18 1.64 1.62
F2D 0 0.01 0.42
F2Ia 57000 186 13
F2Ib 6500 59 11
F2II 560 17 9.2
F2III 50 4.9 6.8
F2IV 16.2 2.7 2.3
F2V 6.26 1.58 1.54
F3D 0 0.01 0.42
F3Ia 55000 192 12
F3Ib 6000 60 11
F3II 550 17 8.9
F3III 50 5 6.2
F3IV 14.8 2.6 2.2
F3V 5.34 1.52 1.46
F4D 0 0.01 0.42
F4Ia 53000 198 12
F4Ib 5600 60 10
F4II 530 18 8.5
F4III 50 5.1 5.6
F4IV 13.4 2.6 2.1
F4V 4.42 1.46 1.38
F5D 0 0.01 0.42
F5Ia 51000 204 12
F5Ib 5100 60 10
F5II 510 18 8.1
F5III 43 5.2 5
F5IV 12 2.6 2
F5V 3.5 1.4 1.3
F5VI 0.98 1.14 0.8
F6D 0 0.01 0.42
F6Ia 54000 223 12
F6Ib 5300 65 10
F6II 520 19 8.1
F6III 40 5.6 4.5
F6IV 10.9 2.6 1.95
F6V 3.04 1.33 1.25
F6VI 0.85 1.12 0.76
F7D 0 0.01 0.42
F7Ia 57000 242 12
F7Ib 5500 70 10
F7II 530 21 8.1
F7III 50 6 4
F7IV 9.8 2.6 1.9
F7V 2.58 1.25 1.2
F7VI 0.72 1.09 0.72
F8D 0 0.01 0.42
F8Ia 61000 260 12
F8Ib 5700 74 10
F8II 540 22 8.1
F8III 50 6.3 3.5
F8IV 8.7 2.5 1.85
F8V 2.13 1.18 1.14
F8VI 0.58 1.07 0.68
F9D 0 0.01 0.42
F9Ia 64000 279 12
F9Ib 5900 79 10
F9II 550 24 8.1
F9III 50 6.7 3
F9IV 7.6 2.5 1.8
F9V 1.67 1.1 1.09
F9VI 0.45 1.04 0.64
G0D 0 0.01 0.63
G0Ia 67000 298 12
G0Ib 6100 84 10
G0II 560 25 8.1
G0III 50 7.1 2.5
G0IV 6.5 2.5 1.75
G0V 1.21 1.03 1.04
G0VI 0.32 1.02 0.6
G1D 0 0.01 0.63
G1Ia 71000 329 12
G1Ib 6500 93 10
G1II 600 27 8.5
G1III 60 7.9 2.6
G1IV 6.18 2.6 1.8
G1V 1.1 1.01 1.02
G1VI 0.3 0.93 0.59
G2D 0 0.01 0.63
G2Ia 76000 360 12
G2Ib 6900 102 11
G2II 630 30 8.9
G2III 60 8.7 2.8
G2IV 5.86 2.6 1.85
G2V 1 0.98 1
G2VI 0 0.83 0.57
G3D 0 0.01 0.63
G3Ia 80000 392 13
G3Ib 7300 110 11
G3II 670 32 9.2
G3III 70 9.4 2.9
G3IV 5.54 2.7 1.9
G3V 0.89 0.96 0.98
G3VI 0.24 0.74 0.56
G4D 0 0.01 0.63
G4Ia 85000 423 13
G4Ib 7700 119 12
G4II 700 35 9.6
G4III 70 10.2 3.1
G4IV 5.22 2.7 1.95
G4V 0.78 1 0.96
G4VI 0.21 1 0.54
G5D 0 0.01 0.63
G5Ia 89000 454 13
G5Ib 8100 128 12
G5II 740 37 10
G5III 75 11 3.2
G5IV 4.9 2.8 2
G5V 0.67 0.91 0.94
G5VI 0.19 0.55 0.53
G6D 0 0.01 0.63
G6Ia 91000 494 13
G6Ib 8800 146 12
G6II 770 40 10.2
G6III 80 12 3.4
G6IV 4.85 2.9 2.06
G6V 0.62 1 0.92
G6VI 0.17 1 0.51
G7D 0 0.01 0.63
G7Ia 92000 534 13
G7Ib 9500 163 12
G7II 800 44 10.4
G7III 80 13 3.5
G7IV 4.81 3 2.12
G7V 0.57 0.91 0.89
G7VI 0.16 0.49 0.49
G8D 0 0.01 0.63
G8Ia 94000 574 14
G8Ib 10300 181 13
G8II 830 47 10.6
G8III 90 14 3.7
G8IV 4.76 3.1 2.18
G8V 0.52 0.91 0.87
G8VI 0.15 0.46 0.47
G9D 0 0.01 0.63
G9Ia 95000 614 14
G9Ib 11000 198 13
G9II 860 51 10.8
G9III 90 15 3.8
G9IV 4.72 3.2 2.24
G9V 0.47 1 0.85
G9VI 0.13 0 0.45
K0D 0 0.01 0.83
K0Ia 97000 654 14
K0Ib 11700 216 13
K0II 890 54 11
K0III 95 16 4
K0IV 4.67 3.3 2.3
K0V 0.42 0.91 0.83
K0VI 0.12 0.4 0.43
K1D 0 0.01 0.83
K1Ia 99000 725 15
K1Ib 13400 251 14
K1II 1200 68 11.6
K1III 140 21.2 4.2
K1IV 4.67 3.3 2.3
K1V 0.35 0.84 1
K1VI 0.1 0.38 0
K2D 0 0.01 0.83
K2Ia 101000 796 16
K2Ib 15200 286 14
K2II 1510 82 12.2
K2III 190 26.4 4.4
K2IV 4.67 3.3 2.3
K2V 0.28 0.77 0.72
K2VI 0.08 0.36 0.39
K3D 0 0.01 0.83
K3Ia 103000 868 16
K3Ib 16900 322 15
K3II 1830 96 12.8
K3III 230 31.6 4.6
K3IV 4.67 3.3 2.3
K3V 0.22 0.7 0.67
K3VI 0.06 0.35 0.37
K4D 0 0.01 0.83
K4Ia 105000 939 17
K4Ib 18700 357 15
K4II 2140 110 13.4
K4III 280 36.8 4.8
K4IV 4.67 3.3 2.3
K4V 0.15 0.63 0.62
K4VI 0.04 0.33 0.35
K5D 0 0.01 0.83
K5Ia 107000 1010 18
K5Ib 20400 392 16
K5II 2450 124 14
K5III 320 42 5
K5V 0.08 0.57 0.57
K5VI 0.03 0.31 0.33
K6D 0 0.01 0.83
K6Ia 109000 1101 18
K6Ib 25500 485 16
K6II 2880 147 14
K6III 350 46.2 5.3
K6V 0.07 0.56 0.55
K6VI 0.02 0.3 0.3
K7D 0 0.01 0.83
K7Ia 111000 1193 19
K7Ib 30600 578 16
K7II 3310 169 14
K7III 380 50.4 5.5
K7V 0.06 0.56 0.54
K7VI 0.02 0.29 0.26
K8D 0 0.01 0.83
K8Ia 113000 1284 19
K8Ib 35800 671 16
K8II 3740 192 14
K8III 410 54.6 5.8
K8V 0.06 0.56 0.52
K8VI 0.02 0.28 0.22
K9D 0 0.01 0.83
K9Ia 115000 1376 20
K9Ib 40900 764 16
K9II 4170 214 14
K9III 440 58.8 6
K9V 0.05 0.55 0.51
K9VI 0.01 0.27 0.19
M0D 0 0.01 1.11
M0Ia 117000 1467 20
M0Ib 46000 857 16
M0II 4600 237 14
M0III 470 63 6.3
M0V 0.04 0.55 0.49
M0VI 0.01 0.26 0.15
M1D 0 0.01 1.11
M1Ia 119000 1778 21
M1Ib 54600 1100 17
M1II 6660 332 14.4
M1III 830 96 6.5
M1V 0.03 0.51 0.46
M1VI 0.01 0.23 0.14
M2D 0 0.01 1.11
M2Ia 122000 2088 22
M2Ib 63200 1343 18
M2II 8720 427 14.8
M2III 1190 129 6.7
M2V 0.03 0.47 0.43
M2VI 0.01 0.2 0.13
M3D 0 0.01 1.11
M3Ia 124000 2399 23
M3Ib 71800 1587 18
M3II 10780 522 15.2
M3III 1560 162 7
M3V 0.02 0.43 0.39
M3VI 0.01 0.17 0.12
M4D 0 0.01 1.11
M4Ia 127000 2709 24
M4Ib 80400 1830 19
M4II 12840 617 15.6
M4III 1920 195 7.2
M4V 0.01 0.4 0.36
M4VI 0 0.13 0.11
M5D 0 0.01 1.11
M5Ia 129000 3020 25
M5Ib 89000 2073 20
M5II 14900 712 16
M5III 2280 228 7.4
M5V 0.01 0.36 0.33
M5VI 0 0.1 0.1
M6D 0 0.01 1.11
M6Ia 132000 3140 26
M6Ib 96000 2274 21
M6II 15230 767 16.5
M6III 2380 261 7.9
M6V 0.01 0.32 0.3
M6VI 0 0.09 0.22
M7D 0 0.01 1.11
M7Ia 135000 3260 28
M7Ib 103000 2475 23
M7II 15550 822 17
M7III 2490 294 8.3
M7V 0 0.28 0.27
M7VI 0 0.08 0.34
M8D 0 0.01 1.11
M8Ia 138000 3379 29
M8Ib 110000 2675 24
M8II 15880 876 17.5
M8III 2590 327 8.8
M8V 0 0.24 0.24
M8VI 0 0.07 0.46
M9D 0 0.01 1.11
M9Ia 141000 3499 30
M9Ib 117000 2876 25
M9II 16200 931 18
M9III 2690 360 9.2
M9V 0 0.2 0.22
M9VI 0 0.05 0.58


On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 09:12 -0800, Daniel Williamson wrote:
> Hi Dalton,
>
> I guess what I'm saying is that A0Ia *is* in the standard class, its not weird. Giants have a Ia and Ib types and probably others. Of course, my Astronomy book is not at hand. Also, real world data hedges its bets. If there is controversy in the scientific community, they'll indicate that by listing A0Ia-Ib. They aren't sure and don't want to get flamed for claiming something that accepted science does not agree upon. For gaming purposes, you can make a decision. If you want to be real detailed, you could list all of the stars where you made a judgment call and what you did. For White Dwarves, you don't need to be real exact. You can simply call it a white dwarf and be done. The process of creating the white dwarf would wipe out any planets or RPG interesting details in the system.
>
> Dan
>
> ___________________________________________________
> "Umm..."
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Dalton Calford <dcalford-at-distributel.ca>
> To: nbossoftware-at-nbos.com
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:17:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [nbos] Stellar Radius - Mass - Luminosity Parameters.
>
>
> Hi
> Dan,
>
> I
> have
> over
> 2000
> such
> systems
> and
> they
> are
> listed
> alphabetically,
> thus
> you
> see
> the
> pattern
> as
> I
> only
> grabed
> the
> first
> few
> items.
>
> If
> the
> spectral
> class
> was
> in
> the
> format
> G2V
> (I
> have
> all
> the
> formats
> from
> O
> to
> M
> with
> all
> the
> decimal
> classifications)
> then
> I
> would
> have
> the
> data.
>
> What
> I
> would
> need
> help
> with
> is
> for
> those
> stars
> that
> don't
> fit
> into
> the
> standard
> O,B,A,F,G,K,M
> size
> and
> decimal
> classes.
>
> Some
> of
> those
> are
> dwarf
> stars
> (white
> and
> brown)
> or
> they
> are
> some
> sort
> of
> class
> that
> is
> not
> detailed
> properly
> (or
> just
> typed
> wrong).
>
> For
> those
> that
> are
> just
> typed
> wrong
> or
> the
> data
> is
> strange,
> all
> it
> is
> going
> to
> take
> is
> a
> human
> to
> read
> the
> data,
> go
> to
> a
> site
> such
> as
> celestia
> and
> get
> confirmation
> as
> to
> what
> the
> star
> should
> be.
>
>
> On
> Fri,
> 2008-02-22
> at
> 03:58
> -0800,
> Daniel
> Williamson
> wrote:
> >
> Dalton,
> >
> >
> You
> may
> be
> running
> into
> difficulty
> because
> many
> of
> the
> spectral
> classes
> you
> listed:
> >
> A0Ia
> >
> comp
> >
> A0Ia(p)
> >
> A0Ia0
> >
> A0Ia:
> >
> A0Iab
> >
> A0Iab-Ib
> >
> A0Iae
> >
> A0MNp...
> >
> A0V
> >
> +
> >
> A2V
> >
> >
> Are
> giants
> e.g.
> "1a."
> The
> other
> problem
> I've
> found
> is
> that
> usually
> real
> world
> data
> is
> generated
> by
> people
> who
> prefer
> to
> hedge
> their
> bets
> rather
> than
> make
> a
> judgment
> call.
> Which
> is
> why
> you
> get
> things
> like
> "A0Iab."
> The
> real
> world
> is
> not
> digital,
> nor
> neatly
> categorized.
> I
> certainly
> hope
> you
> can
> accomplish
> what
> you
> set
> out
> to
> do
> without
> getting
> too
> frustrated.
> >
> >
> Last
> time
> I
> did
> an
> exercise
> like
> this,
> I
> used
> the
> mass,
> radius,
> luminosity
> numbers
> from
> the
> 2300AD
> game.
> Would
> those
> help?
> >
> >
> Dan.
> >
> Baltimore
> >
> >
> ___________________________________________________
> >
> "Umm..."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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